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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/5/21 18:25, Philip Paeps wrote:<br>
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<div class="markdown">I wonder if I should feel inadequate for
having only seven VLANs in my two-bedroom apartment. :-)
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So I've got only one VLAN for my entire house, but spread across 61
Gig-E switch ports in 5 separate rooms. Not a major drama :-).<br>
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<div class="markdown">So this is already happening. Or at least
it's happening in Hong Kong.
<p dir="auto">The Wi-Fi scan list in my living room shows a
roughly equal number of "FOOBAR" and "FOOBAR-GUEST" ESSIDs.
There are several different spellings of FOOBAR but they all
translate to "cheap ISP CPE, settings not touched by
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<p dir="auto">The CPE my ISP tried to install for me has a
friendly "guest Wi-Fi" QR code sticker in the box.</p>
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So this is pretty typical of all "plug-and-pray" wi-fi routers that
are shipping now. I make a habit of always manually configuring mine
(switching them into AP-only mode and what-not), and the guest bits
tend to mirror whatever you do for the main SSID. I shut those down,
but as you rightly point out, most users won't even care. <br>
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It's not uncommon to walk into someone's home and see some odd combo
of numbers and letters as an SSID ending on its own or as "-5G". For
anyone I've helped clean up their home network, I simply run the
same SSID on both bands, as modern devices nowadays will default to
5GHz if the RSSI is within thresholds. Has not been an issue so far.<br>
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<p dir="auto">Casual inspection suggests IPv6 prefix
delegation is taking place and the guest Wi-Fi is a separate
layer 2 broadcast domain. I never paid much attention to the
legacy IP address. I'm pretty sure there's routable IPv4
rather than XLAT though. I never used my ISP's CPE and I
don't make a habit of spending too much time staring at
tcpdump when I'm invited to dinner by less technical
friends. :)</p>
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Yes, SLAAC and PD are pretty standard now on half-decent wi-fi
routers (not sure how they actually work, but the code is there).
But definitely no CLAT function that I've come across with the
mainstream vendors.<br>
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<div class="markdown">I wouldn't be surprised to see a (probably
small) decrease in fixed line broadband services in some parts
of the world.</div>
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In Uganda, for example, the local telco has been recording fewer and
fewer landline customers for the past decade. It's shocking but it's
not shocking.<br>
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I can't imagine other PTT's on the continent are doing any better.<br>
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In South Africa, the PTT is getting rid of ADSL. Fair point, they
are rolling out fibre, but not as fast as there is copper. So areas
that don't have fibre will have to move to 4G/LTE, even though
copper is available. A bit odd, but okay...<br>
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<div class="markdown"> People who don't have own huge
televisions or smart hair dryers or toasters or whatever have
no need for fixed line broadband. They watch YouTube on their
phablet on 5G.
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This.<br>
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One would do well to appeal to this market, rather than try to get
them to abide by "global standards".<br>
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Mark.<br>
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