RE: Tanzanian ISPs move closer to establishing an Internet exchange

["Mark Tinka" <mtinka at africaonline.co.ug>]

I agree. There is a lot of money being spent on international bandwidth,
astronomical figures. Only co-operation amongst providers to use this money
else where, like invest in a local enterpreneur to build local bandwidth
[fibre] is synonymous to Kenya's move to integrate satellite services for
most ISPs into a single antenna.

The average ISP in Uganda pays between $10,000 to $12,000 a month for a mere
1.5Mbps satellite circuit. Depending on your satellite provider, it could be
more or less. But imagine what the total number of ISPs in East Africa alone
could do with all this money.

Regards,

Mark Tinka - CCNA
Network Engineer
Africa Online Uganda
5th Floor, Commercial Plaza
7 Kampala Rd,
Tel:   +256-41-258143
Fax:   +256-41-258144
E-mail: mtinka at africaonline.co.ug
Web:     www.africaonline.co.ug
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Longwe [mailto:brian at pch.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 1:44 PM
To: Mark Tinka
Cc: michuki at swiftkenya.com; 'Brian Candler'; antonio at nambu.uem.mz; 'Bill
Woodcock'; 'John Tully'; afnog at afnog.org
Subject: RE: Tanzanian ISPs move closer to establishing an Internet exchange




Us Africans should be very careful about inviting wolves into our
sheepsteads. Some of these International operators are real sharks and will
skin us inside-out before we can say "ngwe!" ;-) - a Kenyanism...

At the end of the day what it boils down to is capital - sheer  $$$

It would surprise most of us here to know that the same (or equal) capital
that these guys use for projects in places like Africa are available to us
as Africans. As long as we are well organised and accountable enough <and
there's even help available in this area>.

So we should be thinking about how we can help ourselves before we go and
bring in the Big Bad wolf to eat us and our children.

Longwe

On Wed, 14 May 2003, Mark Tinka wrote:

> I guess the landlocked countries will need internal assistance, 
> perhaps from telcos or private organisations willing to invest in 
> fibre services.
>
> I understand TZ has a new cable service up and coming, using fibre. In 
> UG, MTN and some other private companies are building fibre networks. 
> What's left is for the border countries and the landlocked countries 
> to inter-connect.
>
> If you're lucky enough, you could convince Level3 to come in, but I 
> doubt that :-). Basically, some local responsibility for landlocked 
> countries will need to be taken into account.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Tinka - CCNA
> Network Engineer
> Africa Online Uganda
> 5th Floor, Commercial Plaza
> 7 Kampala Rd,
> Tel:   +256-41-258143
> Fax:   +256-41-258144
> E-mail: mtinka at africaonline.co.ug
> Web:     www.africaonline.co.ug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-afnog at afnog.org [mailto:owner-afnog at afnog.org] On Behalf 
> Of Michuki Mwangi
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 1:05 PM
> To: mtinka at africaonline.co.ug
> Cc: 'Brian Candler'; antonio at nambu.uem.mz; 'Bill Woodcock'; 'John 
> Tully'; afnog at afnog.org
> Subject: RE: Tanzanian ISPs move closer to establishing an Internet 
> exchange
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 12:19, Mark Tinka wrote:
> > However, honestly, you won't be able to get that level of trust 
> > among various ISPs, unless it's a government ruling. I guess the 
> > only way ISPs will be able to share a single transport service is 
> > when trans-oceanic fibre makes its way into the country. Only then, 
> > do I see ISPs scrambling for a piece of the pie.
> >
>
> True, but how do we also help the landlocked countries ..?.
>
> >From the statistics provided by IDRC on the Internet connectivity in 
> >Africa
> www.idrc.ca/acacia. There is fibre on the Western, Southern and 
> Nothern Africa. But very little sharing of that Fibre with their 
> landlocked neighbours.
>
>
>
> Michuki.
>
>
>
> -----
> This is the afnog mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.5
>
> To send a message to this list, e-mail afnog at afnog.org
> To send a request to majordomo, e-mail majordomo at afnog.org and put 
> your request in the body of the message (i.e use "help" for help)
>
> This list is maintained by owner-afnog at afnog.org
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> This is the afnog mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.5
>
> To send a message to this list, e-mail afnog at afnog.org
> To send a request to majordomo, e-mail majordomo at afnog.org and put 
> your request in the body of the message (i.e use "help" for help)
>
> This list is maintained by owner-afnog at afnog.org
>





-----
This is the afnog mailing list, managed by Majordomo 1.94.5

To send a message to this list, e-mail afnog at afnog.org
To send a request to majordomo, e-mail majordomo at afnog.org and put
your request in the body of the message (i.e use "help" for help)

This list is maintained by owner-afnog at afnog.org