[afnog] [Community-Discuss] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT

Wed Mar 18 18:48:16 UTC 2020

Hi Owen,

I can tell you that notices like this for LACNIC or IETF aren’t working the same with all the airlines …

Iberia refunded me some tickets. BA not yet (it seems now I may get a refund now because Iberia cancelled one of the legs).

However, Iberia can’t refund neither waive the cancellation/change fees for my LACNIC flight because it is for May and the coverage is only until a previous date.

For Kinshasa, Royal Air Maroc when I looked for this once I saw the email, was not allowing anything for flights in June.

Of course, the situation for all the airlines is changing quickly, but also knowing if it is a canceled meeting or postponed meeting helps to take a decision about changing (and sometimes it can be done at a later date) or refunding (which means that if you buy it later in a closer date to the meeting, it will become more expensive, most probably).

If the meeting is canceled, a voucher for 1 year doesn’t work for all, the destination may be covered by a different airline, or the 1 year may be from the voucher date, etc. Iberia for example only provides vouchers valid to be used until end of 2020 and excludes “vacations” periods.

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

El 18/3/20 19:21, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:

This notice would be enough for most airlines (at least in the US).

In most cases, you can work with the airline and receive at least the following:

                1.            Change fees waived.

                2.            Ticket value is placed on file as a credit to be used to purchase a future flight.

                3.            Purchase must be made within one year or credit expires.

Owen

On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:14 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net> wrote:

Hi Nancy, all,

If I understand correctly, it means also the AFRINIC meeting part will not take place.

Some of us book the flights quite early, from our own pockets, and to make them cheap they are non-refundable.

Due to the circumstances of the Covid19, the airlines are offering free changes but only if the destination country is blocking the participants or not allowing meetings, which at the moment don’t seems to be the case, and in some cases ONLY changes, not refunding.

Furthermore, if they allow ONLY changes, we need to indicate the dates for the change and must be in the next 12 months, typically.

So, it is EXTREMELY URGENT to either, cancel the meeting, or announce immediately the new dates (and the city if is not the same).

Otherwise we will be in a situation of not only wasting our time but also our money.

I will suggest, as other RIRs and the IETF has done, to definitively cancel the meeting, due to the uncertainty of the situation and doing it online.

Changing the dates not only means possible conflicts with other events, but also that people that must participate in certain sessions (example Policy meeting), not being able to be there even remotely.

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

El 18/3/20 16:58, "afnog en nombre de nancy dotse" <afnog-bounces at afnog.org en nombre de nancy at ghana.com> escribió:

Dear All,

Good afternoon.

On 16 March 2020, AfNOG, AFRINIC and the Local Host (ISPA-DRC) had another meeting to re-assess the Corona Virus pandemic as well as logistic issues.

Unfortunately we concluded that a change of plans was mandatory to safeguard the health of our members, community and staff. 

Thus, we agreed that it is best to postpone the AIS 2020  Workshop & Conference to a later date. We will continue to monitor the situation and adopt precautionary measures to ensure everyone’s well-being.

Further, we will communicate  decisions taken in consultation with all stakeholders, and will advise on new AIS 2020 dates and

the way forward in due course.

Please stay safe.

Kind regards

Nancy

AfNOG

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