[afnog] XLAT646 deployment

[Mark Tinka]

On 7/5/21 13:45, Loganaden Velvindron wrote:

>
> [speaking for myself]
>
> Most IoT stuff is still untested over v6. IoT developers aka SoC 
> embedded engineers have pretty tight deadlines to ship devices over to 
> the market. So non-essential things like testing if v6 works or does 
> address parsing work over v6 is often ignored.
>
> The revenue stream is built around analytics collected in the IoT 
> vendor cloud which is still mostly v4. I could be wrong.

You're absolutely right, that's why I said to Jordi that I am not 
getting too excited with seeing vendors implementing RFC 7788 (HNCP). 
It's kind of like what happened with IPTV vs. VoD. Despite Multicast 
being "more efficient", VoD won out. Funny, eh...

All of these "IoT" devices send data into the cloud. In fact, many of 
them actually only allow you to operate them this way, with no direct 
access to the device on site. So without an Internet connection, you 
can't make any changes (previous saved changes persist, though).

One of the issues I have with carbonTRACK, for example, is that they are 
too busy meeting deadlines, they don't even support assignment of static 
IP addresses on an Ethernet port. When I asked them about it, they said 
it was not on their roadmap, and only supported DHCP. You can imagine 
all the encouragement that gave me to ask about IPv6 :-).

But my water heating system also suffers from the same problem. They 
cannot support static IP addressing over the wi-fi module. When I asked 
them for this, they promised to develop it. A year later, it's not high 
on their to-do list, and I can't blame them, if I'm honest. Small 
outfit, desperate to get orders out with good basic functionality. For 
systems that will likely be operated mostly within the confines of a 
home LAN, the vendors can't make the connection between IPv4 exhaustion 
and their future.

Like I've been saying, most people don't care about this. I cared about 
static IP addressing because this is my home electricity, and I want to 
remove the possibility of any problems. But don't expect Jack and 
Svetlana to go caring about this, especially if they don't even know 
what a kWh means :-). And to be honest, they don't need to...

Mark.
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