[afnog] Another Perspective - Kentik's View on the Facebook Outage

[Markus Akena Wipfler]

One more point about the FB "outage". Actually 2 points; 1. They say that
it took so long to get systems back online coz their internal systems
depend on the customer facing DNS servers? I find that hard to believe. 2.
The  issue of having an OOB network that uses the same IP space as the
core backbone hasn't been addressed..

I might not work for FB but I haven't seen such "interesting" design
anywhere before.


On Sat, 9 Oct 2021, 2:29 am Markus Akena Wipfler, <markus.wipfler at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Sat, 9 Oct 2021, 1:59 am Mark Tinka, <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:
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>> On 10/9/21 00:43, Markus Akena Wipfler wrote:
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>> I would call it a general problem of globalisation. Connecting everyone
>> everywhere brings it's set of challenges. To satisfy an ever growing global
>> demand we need complex tools that we humans operate with a brain that for
>> the majority of human existence was used to deal with local issues. I
>> believe we need to get back to focusing more on local markets and providing
>> local solutions. Ofc stupidity can occur anywhere but at a local level the
>> impact is only felt locally.
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>> Two issues here, really:
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>>    - Trying to deliver a service for free to eyeballs at scale will
>>    require massive over-engineering, and the associated risk.
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> No argument there. But FB is not for free. We are the product. We pay with
> our privacy.
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>>    - If the service provided better reliability through a nominal
>>    subscription, would you pay for it? The fact that the horse has left the
>>    barn, notwithstanding?
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>> I don't use any FB services apart from Whatsapp which I only use coz of
> one family chat group :)
>
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>>    - The incessant need to keep growing, as a mechanism to report
>>    corporate and self-worth, is likely to dumb local concentration to a
>>    reasonable degree. The Internet is the ideal platform for this (problem).
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> Where is this need coming from? Is it in our nature, or are we exposed to
> subliminal life long programming to keep the hamster wheel turning?
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>>    -
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>> Mark.
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