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<p>I want to confirm that our ICT community really benefit from the very basics sessions provided by Foreigner (I'm really sorry to use this word)
<span>instructors</span> and few local supporters in the 1st version of SdNOG, during the year those young participant was actively involved with SdNOG team to redistribute their knowledge in formal/un-formal manner including workshops, group discussions in
their perspective communities, and of course via mailing list. this build the people network which is the
<span>ultimate goal</span> of such initiatives.</p>
<p>However as the community get matured the session conducted at the main conference i.e. SdNOG has been upgraded, if not it will be very boring and the continuity of the initiative may negatively affected. Also in the last session (SdNOG 3) the local instructors
provide a considerable amount of the sessions comprising to the previous versions , very good indicator but more effort is need and new faces must show up.</p>
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<p>to conclude, yes basic training sessions are highly appreciated , but you need to put a plan to scale it up.</p>
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<div id="Signature"><b>Dr. Sami H.O. Salih</b><br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> afnog <afnog-bounces@afnog.org> on behalf of Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 3, 2016 8:44:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nishal Goburdhan<br>
<b>Cc:</b> afnog@afnog.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [afnog] AFNOG track content</font>
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<p dir="ltr">Perhaps it's good to note that there is usually an optional Unix bootcamp training at every AFNOG workshop. Below is the URL of this year so you have an idea of what is already covered.</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.ws.afnog.org/afnog2016/unix-intro/index.html">http://www.ws.afnog.org/afnog2016/unix-intro/index.html</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Overall, I think Nishal and Noah already raised why doing a whole track isn't worth the cost.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my LG G4<br>
Kindly excuse brevity and typos</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 Oct 2016 18:06, "Nishal Goburdhan" <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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On 1 Oct 2016, at 22:08, Loganaden Velvindron wrote:<br>
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I would be interested to talk about fundamental topics for UNIX/Linux.<br>
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great, can you write up a brief course outline for how you think this could work?<br>
(even better, would be some course content for this; but that’s generally better done after the planning, eh?)<br>
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I think AfNOG should now aim more towards advanced trainings.<br>
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TCP/IP is evolving. I would like to bring a few additions for<br>
discussion, which I personally believe would benefit our networks &<br>
servers in Africa.<br>
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i don’t think you understood noah’s response, so i’ll try:<br>
it is *not* economically feasible to fly entry-level students, half-way around africa, to hold an entry-level training class. that idea *did* make sense 15-20years ago, when the internet was still finding its legs in africa, and there weren’t a lot of trainers,
and students, around.<br>
today, there are many, many, many, people that have been trained by the likes of afnog/afrinic/pch/nsrc/isoc/et<wbr>c..<br>
that has raised the average skill level in the region dramatically. any way that you want to look at it, it makes more sense (read: it is cheaper) to do entry-level classes in-country/in-city/online, where you can reach a more localised audience.<br>
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that doesn’t mean that training on basic issues has been completed; quite the contrary. but to scale and grow, two things have to happen:<br>
* entry-level classes should be happening in a more region-specific area; this ensures that more region-specific training can happen, in a region-specific language (if necessary), at a relative lower cost. two great examples, are sdnog and tznog, where often,
instruction happen in local languages. there are others, too.<br>
* existing multi-region (so, something like the annual afnog workshops) should “scale-up” and teach more advanced materials, that can then, also become “regionalised” over time.<br>
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i don’t know what you want to “discuss” (your word) but if you’re interested in teaching a course on fundamentals, then, have you considered:<br>
* teaching this face-to-face, in your local environment, and using that feedback to refine your outline<br>
* recording, and putting this online<br>
* reaching out to some of the regional NOGs, and offering your assistance<br>
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there are sufficient people on-list that might also be willing to contribute back to your course outline/material as well.<br>
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hth,<br>
—n.<br>
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