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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By the way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Some CPE vendors already support it, but not in the retail models. This was explained in my presentation this week “Raiders of the lost Ark” “in search for the lost CPE”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-29/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-Jordi-Palet.pdf">https://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-29/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-Jordi-Palet.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Not sure when video will be available …<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The big offender is Mikrotik, they don't support any transition mechanism except 6in4 and this is now useless once you exhaust IPv4 addresses. They are so negligent that they even confuse people using “6to4” to say “6in4”, and those are 2 different transition mechanisms. Not sure how much is being used in residential users in Africa … they are the big offender (I think also Ubiquity). Just don’t by them, or reflash them with OpenWRT and make sure to tell the vendor about it. Only market pressure will make them react.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And of course, we have open source. I will suggest Jool for both the NAT64 and CLAT, but there are other choices.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es><br><b>Fecha: </b>lunes, 3 de diciembre de 2018, 10:48<br><b>Para: </b>Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>, Diarmuid O Briain <diarmuid@obriain.com>, UIXP Techies <techies@uixp.co.ug>, <afnog@afnog.org><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [afnog] IPv6 transition mechanism used by ISP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Android and Windows support since several years ago.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In Apple phones is not needed because they mandate the support of IPv6 in apps. You only have the problem of tethering, but Apple has implemented the CLAT as well for tethering a few months ago (last iOS release).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Windows 10 supports it as well. This is not so important because the most important path for 464XLAT is broadband networks is the CPE.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The document I mention before is precisely to ensure that CPEs support it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If you CPE doesn’t, just reflash it with OpenWRT, and you’re done!</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu><br><b>Fecha: </b>lunes, 3 de diciembre de 2018, 10:15<br><b>Para: </b>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, Diarmuid O Briain <diarmuid@obriain.com>, UIXP Techies <techies@uixp.co.ug>, <afnog@afnog.org><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [afnog] IPv6 transition mechanism used by ISP</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:70.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>On 3/Dec/18 11:06, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I will strongly suggest not going to “only” NAT64/DNS64, but instead using 464XLAT, and even not using DNS64 in that case.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If you just use NAT64/DNS64, you have the problems you mention when some apps use literals, old APIs, etc, and you may break DNSSEC. Those problems vanish with 464XLAT.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><br>Agreed.<br><br>It has been a while since I tested our rig, but back then, 464XLAT support was very poor, both in phones and CPE.<br><br>I haven't checked the current state-of-the-art, if I'm honest. Do you have a summary of where things are?<br><br>Mark.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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