Fw: confident ?

["Jim Fleming" <jfleming at anet.com>]

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Subject: Re: confident ?


> For those confused by the questions....
>
> Consider an ISP who obtained large IPv4 address space allocations via WorldCOM.
>
> Will those allocations now be automatically moved by ICANN and ARIN to be directly delegated
> to those customers ?....so that they can continue to advertise blocks and avoid renumbering ?
>
> or....Will those allocations remain as the "property" of WorldCOM ?...or are they assets
> of ICANN ?....or ARIN ?....
>
> Who owns the IPv4 address space assets ?...that come from IN-ADDR.ARPA....?
>
> Do people now see why some people argued for years about tieing arrangements of
> IPv4 allocations and large companies....?...which people claimed would never go away....
> ...32 bit numbers do not disappear....companies do....people better make sure they
> understand who owns the address spaces....especially as those address spaces get very large...
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fleming" <jfleming at anet.com>
> To: "vint cerf" <vinton.g.cerf at wcom.com>; <nvictory at ntia.doc.gov>; "DEvans" <DEvans at doc.gov>; "karl at cavebear. com"
> <karl at cavebear.com>; "andy at ccc. de" <andy at ccc.de>; "steve at stevecrocker. com" <steve at stevecrocker.com>; "Lynn" <lynn at icann.org>;
> "Dave Farber" <dave at farber.net>
> Cc: "mueller at syr. edu" <mueller at syr.edu>; "froomkin at law. miami. edu" <froomkin at law.miami.edu>; <richard at vrx.net>; "Joanna Lane"
> <jo-uk at rcn.com>; "love at cptech. org" <love at cptech.org>; <wsl at cerebalaw.com>; <terastra at terabytz. co. nz>; "Judith Oppenheimer"
> <joppenheimer at icbtollfree.com>; <dan at new.net>; "Barbara Simons" <simons at acm.org>; <DannyYounger at cs.com>; <dominic.pinto at IEEE.ORG>;
> <billcu at citynet.net>; <rhe at NOSC.JA.NET>; "Gordon Cook" <cook at cookreport.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:44 AM
> Subject: confident ?
>
>
> > http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg16451.html
> > From: vint cerf <vinton.g.cerf at wcom.com>
> > "even if WorldCom enters chapter 11, I am confident that UUNET and the MAE Systems will continue to operate
> > normally."
> > =====
> >
> > Will ICANN be taking over those 32-bit IPv4 operations ?
> >
> > How long do you think people will rely on 0:0 .ARPA ?
> >
> > http://www.hs247.com
> > "April 5th - Department of Defense Awards WorldCom Defense Research And Engineering Network (DREN) Contract
> > WorldCom will deliver a private, high-performance network solution for DREN that supports high-bandwidth applications such as
> > high-speed data transfer, IP multicasting and next-generation Internet protocol (IPv6). The DREN network will support both
native
> > mode ATM and IP traffic, providing the DoD with the flexibility it needs to support a nationally distributed system of super
> > computers"
> > ===
> >
> > Are there any companies that will be offering reliable, redundant, 128-bit DNS .ORG services ?
> > 0:190     ORG
> > If so, why didn't they submit bids to ICANN ?
> >
> > Is the game over ?
> >
> > Jim Fleming
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
> >
>


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