[afnog] ASO - Africa Space

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Dear Christopher,
At 02:26 AM 31-07-2025, Christopher Hawker wrote:
>Although this was addressed to Hervé, I feel the 
>need to address your disagreement with my initial reply.
>
>    * Could you please clarify if your remark is 
> in relation to the process globally, or the process within the AFRINIC region?
My comment was about the lack of community 
representatives for Africa and the Indian Ocean region.

>    * Mr. Dabee is unable to "fix" any failures 
> by AFRINIC regarding the appointment of ASO AC 
> members. He does not have the power to 
> constitute a board, nor does he possess the 
> ability to represent AFRINIC in the NRO EC.
There was an announcement [1] which said that the 
company (in receivership) was previously 
represented by another receiver and that there 
was current receiver replaced the previous 
one.  The name is identical to the one in records 
published on a government web site.  Where does 
the unable to represent AFRINIC come from?

>    * Based upon my review of the NRO website 
> (https://www.nro.net) I've not been able to 
> find any information or documentation that 
> states that an RIR must "pay its NRO dues". 
> Could you please share your source of 
> information that states that an RIR must pay fees to the NRO?
I'll send you the link off-list.

>    * Your cited source does not reference that 
> AFRINIC could afford to pay for "gift cards" 
> (and for clarity it doesn't say that they can't 
> afford it). The only thing that is mentioned in 
> relation to the agenda item you cited was "Not 
> discussed". I'm also not certain as to the relevance.
>
>The documented process for the appointment of 
>members to the NRO NC (which also performs the 
>functions of the ASO AC) can be found on 
><https://www.nro.net/about/address-supporting-organization/the-nro-number-council/>https://www.nro.net/about/address-supporting-organization/the-nro-number-council/. 
>Notably, it reads that "Each RIR community 
>selects two people to serve on the ASO AC / NRO 
>NC" and that "Each RIR’s Executive Board also 
>appoints one person from its respective region 
>to serve", meaning that each RIR's community 
>elects two people to serve and the RIR's board 
>selects a third. In all fairness, I feel that an 
>election to constitute a board for AFRINIC is 
>more important than an election to appoint two 
>members to the NRO NC, and I believe a large 
>number of members in the community would agree 
>with this. Further (and as I mentioned 
>previously), because there is no quorate board 
>the third member cannot be appointed, and Mr 
>Dabee does not possess the power to appoint someone.

I commented on the two members for the community 
side.  I did not get into whether the third 
member can be appointed or not.  There would be a 
reason for having community representatives in 
this region or else it would be specified as 
optional.  I was looking at the matter in terms 
what could be done.  If it cannot be done, it may 
be possible for someone to clarify that.

I attended a technical conference last week. I 
was asked what would happen.  There wasn't any comment about elections.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy