[afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!

Fri Sep 19 11:03:22 UTC 2014

On 19 September 2014 14:02, Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 19/09/2014 10:40, Kofi ANSA AKUFO wrote:
> > On Sep 19, 2014 10:50 AM, "Sunday Folayan" <sfolayan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> > On 19/09/2014 04:26, Daniel Kofi ANSA AKUFO wrote:
> >>>> On 18 September 2014 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 17 Sep 2014 16:58, "Daniel Kofi ANSA AKUFO"
> >>>>> <kofi.ansa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hello All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I was just reviewing some IPv4 stats allocated in our
> >>>>>> region and I came
> >>>>> across this disgusting scheme where some ORGs have been
> >>>>> assigned huge chunks of IPv4 in our service region and
> >>>>> wasting the resources.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wasting in what terms.......? Specifics please. .....
> >>>>>
> >>>> How much of the content on these sites served using the
> >>>> allocated IPv4 space is relevant to the development of our
> >>>> region. Now that is a /12 allocated and believe me there are
> >>>> many other such huge chunks out there. It is a waste because
> >>>> it does not in anyway contribute to our regional
> >>>> development.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/about-us/origins
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you argue FOR how such content encourages Internet
> >>>> development in Africa as specified in the above link which
> >>>> spells out the basis for the establishment of our RIR?
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't have an issue where IPs are used but my concern
> >>>>>> is when huge
> >>>>> resources in the order of /12 are issued to virtual ORGs
> >>>>> and they tend to abuse it for spamming and other
> >>>>> activities. A typical example is the /16 block which was
> >>>>> issued as part of /12 to an ORG last year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any empirical evidence that this guys are using the space
> >>>>> for SPAM....in any case.....?
> >>>>>
> >>>> First of all spamming and abuse issues was what triggered
> >>>> the discovery of these allocated resources.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://bgp.he.net/net/154.87.0.0/16#_dns
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I know for sure some AFRINIC hostmasters did their best
> >>>>>> to prevent this
> >>>>> but then their efforts are over ridden by so called
> >>>>> management ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The issue gets even sour when well known service
> >>>>>> providers through their
> >>>>> officials assist these so called ORGs to perpetrate these
> >>>>> abuse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ISP business is not to police downstream customers but to
> >>>>> offer then transit.......
> >>>>>
> >>>> This is not about policing downstream customers its about
> >>>> maintaining due diligence by promoting activities and
> >>>> investments that will develop the service region.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you tell the community how the activities of these
> >>>> ORGs allocated with such huge resources help the development
> >>>> of the region?
> >>>>
> >>>> Our region has been allocated roughly *5  x /8 IPv4 blocks*.
> >>>> */12 IPv4* is just out there not been used efficiently with
> >>>> respect to activities that contribute to regional development
> >>>> and corporation. I could list at *least 8 more (none less
> >>>> than /17 IPv4)* out there currently used in such activities.
> >>>> Yet we are reluctant to pass policies that will enable our
> >>>> tertiary institutions to acquire more IP space for R&D.
> >>>>
> >>>> Unfortunately AFRINIC just keeps providing number stats of
> >>>> allocated resources in the sub region which does not
> >>>> correlate with efficient usage of the resources with respect
> >>>> to impact on the region's development.
> >>>>
> >>>> My question to the community is how do we measure or track
> >>>> progress in our region based on these number allocation
> >>>> stats?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there a need to restructure and recompose our RIR to
> >>>> reflect the challenges specific to our region to impact
> >>>> development in the region?
> >>>>
> >>>> Clearly the many PASSIVE policies we have now are not
> >>>> working. There needs to be a more vibrant follow up process
> >>>> after resources by the community at large.
> >>>>
> >>>> K
> >
> >
> > Amigo,
> >
> > When I last checked the policy space, there was nothing that
> > showed you lighting a candle, instead of this persistent cursing of
> > the darkness.
> >
> >> :) I wouldn't call it cursing of the darkness, but rather
> >> stimulating discussion to explore our policy processes and
> >> policies implemented to steer away from "lighting candles" that
> >> will be blown out quickly.
> >
>
> It would be blown away, if such candles are lit on a windy day. Of
> course, no one will notice if it is sunny as well.
>
> Would be great if people see you as stimulating discussions, and not
> belly-aching about the organization, its processes and the integrity
> of the management and staff. What looks visible here, is the prophet
> and not the message. Perhaps you need to change your tactics and
> method for a reasonable impact. Discretion is the greater part of valour.
>
> Sunday

Thanks for sharing your opinion. Could you be specific where any staff of
AFRINIC has been criticized in this post other than the process and
framework staff find themselves working in?

I believe you been a board member can help to enlighten the community about
the processes and ADDRESS the issues rather than shut down discussions.

As a long standing board member let the community know whether the board
approved the first time allocation of /12 IPv4 to this ORG? If yes why?
What policies framework was followed to approve this block?

This will help to enlighten the community about the flaws in our processes
and policies and sensitize many when it comes to voting and implementation
of policies.

cheers

K.

> Sunday.
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